Problem Iran
Lets face facts, international relations creates sometimes bad bedfellows. Back in the 70's we supported a leader ijn Iran called the Shaw. Was this a squeeky clean nice guy? Nope. But at the time he was a stabalizing factor in the middle east. Why did we support him then? Rhetorical question .... a stabalizing factor in the middle east.
1978 showed signs of unrest then we had the sacking of the United States Embassy. Hostages held for 440 plus days. Something you would never ever see in the United States as we repect the soverignty of the Embassy.
Radical Islamofacism rears its ugly hatred filled racist face into international attention at this time. Was it there before? Sure, all you have to do is look at history. Racism and facism from middle eastern muslims has been there since the crusades. Look back at the 1400's in Europe. Islam tried to take over Europe from the turks who invaded off and on. Why did they stop? Well someone was willing to sink to the same level as muslims and play by their rules and be as mean .... A national hero in Romannia ... Vlad Tepisch.
I digress however, lets look at what is going on now and the threat to international security. Isreal is not pleased and should not be at ease. You have a racist radical in power of a country trying very hard to create a nuclear bomb.
Oh posh and tish you say. Ultra right wing conspirocies you claim. HA!
From the Counterterrorismblog:
Purchase of North Korean Missiles Extends Iran's Force Projection Capability
A little-noticed story from late 2005 could prove quite significant as conflict with Iran draws closer. On December 16, the German newspaper Bild reported on the German secret services' claim that Iran had bought 18 disassembled BM-25 missiles from North Korea.
The BM-25 missile is based on the Soviet SS-N-6 (R-27) submarine-launched ballistic missile. Although Bild said that the missiles Iran purchased have a range of 2,500 kilometers, Jane's Defense Weekly reported that North Korea, with the help of Russian specialists, has developed two new versions of the R-27 with extended ranges. Analysts believe that the land-based version has a range of 2,500 to 4,000 kilometers. Consistent with this report, Bild reported that Iranian president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad wanted to have the missiles' range "extended to 3,500 kilometers." The German secret service report warned that "with a longer range, and the probability that (Tehran) would try to equip the missiles with nuclear warheads, there is the risk that Iran could strike at Israel and parts of central Europe."
Reader Timothy Thompson, who is always able to provide keen insight into weapons systems, comments on the missile purchase:
[The BM-25 missiles that Iran purchased] can easily be launched from [a] freighter modified with launch tubes and blast channels. They give Iran a projection of force capability far beyond the 2000-3000 km range of the missiles. It is possible -- though not confirmed -- that Iran may not use the BM-25's but only bought them to get the R-27 rocket motors for a missile of their own design.
The countries most concerned about these developments are Israel and Turkey. Israel's concern is obvious: Anytime a country whose president has vowed to wipe you off the map improves its ability to strike, that is a worrisome development. Turkey's concern stems from three major factors. First, it shares a large border with Iran. Second, Iranian missiles can reach vital Turkish military and industrial targets. Third, the NATO treaty obligates Turkey to treat any attack on another NATO country as an attack on its own territory. In the event this were to occur, we may see the use of Turkish ground forces.
Iran's ability to strike at longer range makes military options against that country increasingly perilous.
Posted by Daveed Gartenstein-Ross
Iran Showdown Draws Closer
After a two-year moratorium on its nuclear program, Iran defied the U.S. and European powers last week by resuming nuclear research. Iran decided to remove UN seals at a nuclear plant in Natanz, which would enable it to resume research into uranium enrichment. Now the U.S., UN Security Council members, the IAEA and Iranian president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad are all readying for a showdown over Iran's nuclear program.
Republican and Democratic senators said that the U.S. may have to undertake a military strike to prevent Iran from obtaining nuclear weapons, but that military force should only be used as a last resort. Senators John McCain (R.-Ariz.) and Evan Bayh (D.-Indiana) both said this, with Bayh stating that there are sensitive elements of Iran's nuclear program that, if attacked, "would dramatically delay its development." Regime Change Iran reports that congressional sources have said "that this joint appearance was carefully prepared by both political parties as a show [of] unity on . . . Iran."
Members of the UN Security Council also met on Monday to decide on a course of action. Moscow and Beijing previously blocked Western efforts to bring Iran before the Security Council, but Russian president Vladimir Putin appears close to changing his mind: "As for Russia and our European partners and the United States -- we have very close positions on the Iranian problem." But even if Russia changes its mind, China could still block UN sanctions.
Even IAEA head Mohammed ElBaradei has explicitly put the use of force on the table: "We are coming to the litmus test in the next few weeks. Diplomacy has to be backed by pressure and, in extreme cases, by force. We have rules. We have to do everything possible to uphold the rules through conviction. If not, then you impose them. Of course, this has to be a last resort, but sometimes you have to do it." ElBaradei has said that Iran has seven weeks to answer the IAEA's outstanding questions, including questions about secret work on nuclear warheads. If Iran doesn't comply by March 6, ElBaradei threatened to declare that the IAEA's inspection has reached a dead end.
Iran is also preparing for the coming conflict. Ahmadinejad launched into an angry tirade against the West on Saturday. He said that Iran would press forward with its nuclear program despite the West's efforts, and made a threat: "You need us more than we need you. All of you today need the Iranian nation. Why are you putting on airs? You don't have that might." Ahmadinejad seems to be referring to possible use of the Iranian oil weapon, given that it is the world's fourth largest oil producer.
I don't expect Iran or the U.S. to back down.
Posted by Daveed Gartenstein-Ross
One must really second think especially when a racist extremist makes the following comments. From the BBC:http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/4616336.stm
ISRAEL
As the Imam said, Israel must be wiped off the map.
THE HOLOCAUST
They have created a myth today that they call the massacre of Jews and they consider it a principle above God, religions and the prophets.
Then he has also said this, which shows his hypocracy and hatred for Israel:
NUCLEAR WEAPONS
A nation which has culture, logic and civilisation does not need nuclear weapons. The countries which seek nuclear weapons are those which want to solve all problems by the use of force. Our nation does not need such weapons.
Ok so a nation with culture logic ect , does not need nuclear weapons,. Then why is he in such hot pursuit of these weapons and the means to launch them against those he does not like.
If this does not send chills up your spin you are just really out of touch with reality. Iran gets their grubby little hands on a nuke, with that moron in Venzuala being supported by the antiAmerican Belafrauda (thats belefante the carribean one hit wonder). Think of how easy it would be to load a nuke on a ship and send it oin a false trip to Havanna and then launch against the Heartland of this great nation.
Will Israel stand for this despot to get his hands on a nuke. I doubt it. Will we suport Israel in their stance ... questionable do to the wishy washy bozos in Washington. We should and better support an action that prevents the middle east from getting the bomb.
1978 showed signs of unrest then we had the sacking of the United States Embassy. Hostages held for 440 plus days. Something you would never ever see in the United States as we repect the soverignty of the Embassy.
Radical Islamofacism rears its ugly hatred filled racist face into international attention at this time. Was it there before? Sure, all you have to do is look at history. Racism and facism from middle eastern muslims has been there since the crusades. Look back at the 1400's in Europe. Islam tried to take over Europe from the turks who invaded off and on. Why did they stop? Well someone was willing to sink to the same level as muslims and play by their rules and be as mean .... A national hero in Romannia ... Vlad Tepisch.
I digress however, lets look at what is going on now and the threat to international security. Isreal is not pleased and should not be at ease. You have a racist radical in power of a country trying very hard to create a nuclear bomb.
Oh posh and tish you say. Ultra right wing conspirocies you claim. HA!
From the Counterterrorismblog:
Purchase of North Korean Missiles Extends Iran's Force Projection Capability
A little-noticed story from late 2005 could prove quite significant as conflict with Iran draws closer. On December 16, the German newspaper Bild reported on the German secret services' claim that Iran had bought 18 disassembled BM-25 missiles from North Korea.
The BM-25 missile is based on the Soviet SS-N-6 (R-27) submarine-launched ballistic missile. Although Bild said that the missiles Iran purchased have a range of 2,500 kilometers, Jane's Defense Weekly reported that North Korea, with the help of Russian specialists, has developed two new versions of the R-27 with extended ranges. Analysts believe that the land-based version has a range of 2,500 to 4,000 kilometers. Consistent with this report, Bild reported that Iranian president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad wanted to have the missiles' range "extended to 3,500 kilometers." The German secret service report warned that "with a longer range, and the probability that (Tehran) would try to equip the missiles with nuclear warheads, there is the risk that Iran could strike at Israel and parts of central Europe."
Reader Timothy Thompson, who is always able to provide keen insight into weapons systems, comments on the missile purchase:
[The BM-25 missiles that Iran purchased] can easily be launched from [a] freighter modified with launch tubes and blast channels. They give Iran a projection of force capability far beyond the 2000-3000 km range of the missiles. It is possible -- though not confirmed -- that Iran may not use the BM-25's but only bought them to get the R-27 rocket motors for a missile of their own design.
The countries most concerned about these developments are Israel and Turkey. Israel's concern is obvious: Anytime a country whose president has vowed to wipe you off the map improves its ability to strike, that is a worrisome development. Turkey's concern stems from three major factors. First, it shares a large border with Iran. Second, Iranian missiles can reach vital Turkish military and industrial targets. Third, the NATO treaty obligates Turkey to treat any attack on another NATO country as an attack on its own territory. In the event this were to occur, we may see the use of Turkish ground forces.
Iran's ability to strike at longer range makes military options against that country increasingly perilous.
Posted by Daveed Gartenstein-Ross
Iran Showdown Draws Closer
After a two-year moratorium on its nuclear program, Iran defied the U.S. and European powers last week by resuming nuclear research. Iran decided to remove UN seals at a nuclear plant in Natanz, which would enable it to resume research into uranium enrichment. Now the U.S., UN Security Council members, the IAEA and Iranian president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad are all readying for a showdown over Iran's nuclear program.
Republican and Democratic senators said that the U.S. may have to undertake a military strike to prevent Iran from obtaining nuclear weapons, but that military force should only be used as a last resort. Senators John McCain (R.-Ariz.) and Evan Bayh (D.-Indiana) both said this, with Bayh stating that there are sensitive elements of Iran's nuclear program that, if attacked, "would dramatically delay its development." Regime Change Iran reports that congressional sources have said "that this joint appearance was carefully prepared by both political parties as a show [of] unity on . . . Iran."
Members of the UN Security Council also met on Monday to decide on a course of action. Moscow and Beijing previously blocked Western efforts to bring Iran before the Security Council, but Russian president Vladimir Putin appears close to changing his mind: "As for Russia and our European partners and the United States -- we have very close positions on the Iranian problem." But even if Russia changes its mind, China could still block UN sanctions.
Even IAEA head Mohammed ElBaradei has explicitly put the use of force on the table: "We are coming to the litmus test in the next few weeks. Diplomacy has to be backed by pressure and, in extreme cases, by force. We have rules. We have to do everything possible to uphold the rules through conviction. If not, then you impose them. Of course, this has to be a last resort, but sometimes you have to do it." ElBaradei has said that Iran has seven weeks to answer the IAEA's outstanding questions, including questions about secret work on nuclear warheads. If Iran doesn't comply by March 6, ElBaradei threatened to declare that the IAEA's inspection has reached a dead end.
Iran is also preparing for the coming conflict. Ahmadinejad launched into an angry tirade against the West on Saturday. He said that Iran would press forward with its nuclear program despite the West's efforts, and made a threat: "You need us more than we need you. All of you today need the Iranian nation. Why are you putting on airs? You don't have that might." Ahmadinejad seems to be referring to possible use of the Iranian oil weapon, given that it is the world's fourth largest oil producer.
I don't expect Iran or the U.S. to back down.
Posted by Daveed Gartenstein-Ross
One must really second think especially when a racist extremist makes the following comments. From the BBC:http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/4616336.stm
ISRAEL
As the Imam said, Israel must be wiped off the map.
THE HOLOCAUST
They have created a myth today that they call the massacre of Jews and they consider it a principle above God, religions and the prophets.
Then he has also said this, which shows his hypocracy and hatred for Israel:
NUCLEAR WEAPONS
A nation which has culture, logic and civilisation does not need nuclear weapons. The countries which seek nuclear weapons are those which want to solve all problems by the use of force. Our nation does not need such weapons.
Ok so a nation with culture logic ect , does not need nuclear weapons,. Then why is he in such hot pursuit of these weapons and the means to launch them against those he does not like.
If this does not send chills up your spin you are just really out of touch with reality. Iran gets their grubby little hands on a nuke, with that moron in Venzuala being supported by the antiAmerican Belafrauda (thats belefante the carribean one hit wonder). Think of how easy it would be to load a nuke on a ship and send it oin a false trip to Havanna and then launch against the Heartland of this great nation.
Will Israel stand for this despot to get his hands on a nuke. I doubt it. Will we suport Israel in their stance ... questionable do to the wishy washy bozos in Washington. We should and better support an action that prevents the middle east from getting the bomb.
Bruce,
Awsome reply. Thankyou very much for taking time to back up your opinion with referances on the topic. Most excellent way of thinking on your behalf. By far the best reply to any blog I have posted.
Though I do not agree with the assertin /interpretation that Islam is the oldest religion in the world. For instance pagen beliefs of earth/Gaia fgo further back and are still practiced in part by those of a wiccan standing.
Again I thankyou for clearly posting your thoughts and use of referances to back up your opinion. Thats what it is all about an exchange of ideas and thought over a topic. =)
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Devious Mind |
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